• Skip to main content
  • Skip to secondary menu
  • Skip to primary sidebar
  • Skip to footer
NoteInvestor.com Logo with House next to words

Note Investor

How to buy, sell, broker or invest in private mortgage notes for cash flow!

Your Trusted Source For
Note Investing Information!

  • Home
  • About
  • Articles
    • Notes 101
    • Note Brokers
    • Note Buyers
    • Real Deals
    • Seller’s Corner
    • Cash Flow Business
  • Learn
    • Sell Your Mortgage Note
    • Note Broker Training
    • How To Buy Notes
    • Note Buyers Directory
    • Creating Notes With Seller Financing
    • Note Investing 101 Series Videos
    • Note Industry Conventions
  • Bookstore
  • Contact
  • Sell Your Note

Investing in Real Estate Notes: Transitioning from Note Broker to Note Investor

August 18, 2010 by Greg Gehlen 2 Comments

Have you ever thought of buying and holding a real estate note for yourself instead of brokering it to an end investor?

I strongly encourage you to do so as it can be a rewarding path in the note business. I initially began brokering notes in 2005 and in 2007/2008 made the transition from note broker to note investor.

Here are some thoughts to keep in mind if you are looking to begin investing in notes to hold for yourself.

Mindset Shift

Although there are many parallels between brokering and investing in real estate notes, your mindset requires a bit of a shift. It is a shift from,

“What investor will pay me the most for this note?”

to

“Would I want to put my own cash into this note?”

Although this is only a slight shift, I began looking back at my brokered deals and saw a handful of notes that would have been perfect to keep for myself. However, since my mindset at the time was not to buy and hold and only to broker notes, I never ran these through my “investor” filter. Every note holder/seller you talk to you should begin asking yourself if their note is a potential investment that you would feel comfortable owning for your own “portfolio”.

Marketing (Direct Mail)

When I started to ask myself this question, many times the answer was “no”. I realized that as a broker, I had fine-tuned my marketing to find cash flow notes that fit my investors’ criteria but that these criteria did not necessarily fit my criteria as an investor.

For example, I did not personally have an interest in commercial notes or land notes so I cut these out of my marketing. I also narrowed my geographic area and reduced the note sizes that I previously marketed for. Make sure your marketing matches the types of notes you would want to hold for yourself.

Underwriting/Due Diligence

Going from note broker to note investor requires that you understand the due diligence process intimately and understand what makes for a good investment vs. a bad one. Use your time as a broker to learn this process from your investors who have years and years of experience with this.

When note buyers are asking for certain information and documents, understand not only the documents but also what they are specifically looking at in the information and documents and why it is important. When you start looking at each deal from the perspective of an investor, you come up with your own questions for the note seller and in the process you become a better broker too.

Cash Flow/Longevity

One of the great benefits of owning your own notes is the consistent monthly cash flow that is generated for you. During slower times of the year as a broker, you still receive cash flow from notes you previously invested in and it gives you longevity to work on your business if/when your brokering business slows down. Had I not started to make the transition from broker to investor when I did, I probably would have been flushed out as a broker when the credit markets froze and investors tightened their criteria or went out of business.

The First Deal

Below is the first note that I purchased for myself (with approximate numbers) to give you an idea of why I encourage you to start buying/holding your own notes.

  • Sale Price: $27,700
  • Note Size: $26,500
  • Note Balance at Purchase: $15,500
  • Purchase Price $11,500
  • Current Balance $8,400

To date I have received 38 monthly payments of $285 totaling $10,830 (return of principal/discount/interest).

Had I brokered this note, the best price at the time was $12, 500 so I would have made $1,000 back in 2007. Now I will continue to receive $285/month for the next three years.

Hopefully as you can see, owning your own notes can be a rewarding path to pursue. Although transitioning from broker to investor is not easy, I encourage you to slowly begin the shift. Get at least one under your belt and go from there. Good luck!

About the Author: Greg Gehlen is a private investor in real estate notes. He has been in the “paper”  business since 2005 and can be contacted at 702.515.7416.

Filed Under: Cash Flow Business, Note Brokers Tagged With: Find Cash Flow Notes, Note broker, note buyers, note investor, real estate notes

Reader Interactions

Comments

  1. Harvey Seigle says

    November 30, 2016 at 11:15 am

    I’m a complete novice…how does note size figure in to the calculations…could you explain the various terms in more detail and how they relate to the overall deal..thanks

    Reply
    • Tracy Z says

      December 9, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      Hello Harvey, Here is a helpful article on terms of repayment and calculations:
      https://noteinvestor.com/notes-101/buying-mortgage-notes-7-calculator-tips/

      We also have a full video training on how to calculate cash flows at: https://noteinvestor.com/calculating-cash-flow-notes-training/

      Reply

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Primary Sidebar

Learn Real Estate Notes

Click the reports below to download your FREE copy of 5 Ways to Cash in on Notes AND a BONUS!
Diversified Investment Services Inc BBB Business Review

Search This Site

More to See

Investing Notes Risk

21 Tips To Read Before You Get Started Investing in Notes

Selling Mortgage Notes? Find the Right Note Buyer!

Learn Note Business

Learn the Note Business in 60 Seconds?

Cash Flow Notes Business Truth

5 Myths About the Cash Flow Notes Business

Most Read Note Buying Info

How To Buy Mortgage Notes
Creating Notes With Seller Financing
Note Broker Training
Get Direct With Note Buyers Directory
How Can I Find Cash Flow Notes?
Buying and Selling Notes For Residual Income
How Dodd Frank Mortgage Laws Apply to Seller Financing
How To Calculate Cash Flow Notes
Note Investing 101 Series Videos
Best of Notes 2024

Connect With Us

  • Facebook
  • Instagram
  • LinkedIn
  • Twitter
  • YouTube

Footer

Places to Visit

  • Creating Notes
  • How To Buy Notes
  • Note Broker Training
  • Note Buyers Directory
  • Sell Your Note
  • Bookstore

We Are Here to Help

Photo of Fred Rewey and Tracy Z of NoteInvestor.com
Fred Rewey & Tracy Z NoteInvestor.com

Receive the Note Investor Newsletter

I confirm that I am at least 16 years of age or older

I have read and accept any EULA, Terms and Conditions, Acceptable Use Policy, and/or Data Processing Addendum which has been provided to me in connection with the software, products and/or services.

I have been fully informed and consent to the collection and use of my personal data for any purpose in connection with the software, products and/or services.

I understand that certain data, including personal data, must be collected or processed in order for you to provide any products or services I have requested or contracted for. I understand that in some cases it may be required to use cookies or similar tracking to provide those products or services..

I understand that I have the right to request access annually to any personal data you have obtained or collected regarding me. You have agreed to provide me with a record of my personal data in a readable format.

I also understand that I can revoke my consent and that I have the right to be forgotten. If I revoke my consent you will stop collecting or processing my personal data. I understand that if I revoke my consent, you may be unable to provide contracted products or services to me, and I can not hold you responsible for that.

Likewise, if I properly request to be forgotten, you will delete the data you have for me, or make it inaccessible. I also understand that if there is a dispute regarding my personal data, I can contact someone who is responsible for handling data-related concerns. If we are unable to resolve any issue, you will provide an independent service to arbitrate a resolution. If I have any questions regarding my rights or privacy, I can contact the email address provided.

Powered by KARTRA

COPYRIGHT © 2008-2025 NOTE INVESTOR | PRIVACY POLICY | CONTACT US
This website is for informational purposes. This is not an offer to sell or purchase any security. Nothing is intended as legal, financial or investment advice. Any historical data represents past performance and does not guarantee future results. NoteInvestor.com is owned by Diversified Investment Services, Inc.

form_tpl_2_img_1.png

Sign up and receive both 5 Ways To Cash In On Notes AND 21 Note Investing Tips...for FREE!!!





I confirm that I am at least 16 years of age or older

I have read and accept any EULA, Terms and Conditions, Acceptable Use Policy, and/or Data Processing Addendum which has been provided to me in connection with the software, products and/or services.

I have been fully informed and consent to the collection and use of my personal data for any purpose in connection with the software, products and/or services.

I understand that certain data, including personal data, must be collected or processed in order for you to provide any products or services I have requested or contracted for. I understand that in some cases it may be required to use cookies or similar tracking to provide those products or services..

I understand that I have the right to request access annually to any personal data you have obtained or collected regarding me. You have agreed to provide me with a record of my personal data in a readable format.

I also understand that I can revoke my consent and that I have the right to be forgotten. If I revoke my consent you will stop collecting or processing my personal data. I understand that if I revoke my consent, you may be unable to provide contracted products or services to me, and I can not hold you responsible for that.

Likewise, if I properly request to be forgotten, you will delete the data you have for me, or make it inaccessible. I also understand that if there is a dispute regarding my personal data, I can contact someone who is responsible for handling data-related concerns. If we are unable to resolve any issue, you will provide an independent service to arbitrate a resolution. If I have any questions regarding my rights or privacy, I can contact the email address provided.

Powered by KARTRA